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		<title>Happy continents</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pangaea: when the continents were cuddling. From http://lnyn.tumblr.com/post/16396686872 Filed under: Fun, Geology Tagged: Pangaea, Plate tectonics<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=geochristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1602783&amp;post=3949&amp;subd=geochristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Pangaea: when the continents were cuddling.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://lnyn.tumblr.com/post/16396686872">http://lnyn.tumblr.com/post/16396686872</a></p>
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		<title>Apple to Apples</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<p style="text-align:left;">HT: <a href="http://cyberbrethren.com/2012/01/10/comparing-apples-to-apple-goofiest-infographic-ever/">Cyberbrethren</a></p>
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		<title>Google homepage honors Steno &#8212; father of stratigraphy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicolas Steno, regarded by many as the Father of Stratigraphy, has been honored on today&#8217;s Google search page with a &#8220;Google Doodle,&#8221; showing layers of fossil-bearing strata: Steno, who was born on January 11, 1638, wrote a paper on fossiliferous rocks in which he outlined what are now known as Steno&#8217;s principles of stratigraphy. He [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=geochristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1602783&amp;post=3936&amp;subd=geochristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicolas Steno, regarded by many as the Father of Stratigraphy, has been honored on today&#8217;s <a href="http://www.google.com/">Google</a> search page with a &#8220;<a href="http://www.google.com/doodles/finder/2012/All%20doodles">Google Doodle</a>,&#8221; showing layers of fossil-bearing strata:</p>
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<p>Steno, who was born on January 11, 1638, wrote a paper on fossiliferous rocks in which he outlined what are now known as Steno&#8217;s principles of stratigraphy. He recognized that layering was the most conspicuous property of sedimentary rocks, and his three principles help us to decipher the history of a succession of sedimentary rocks:</p>
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<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_superposition">Principle of superposition</a> &#8212; Unless deformed by folding or faulting, a sequence of sedimentary layers will progress in age from oldest to youngest as one goes from bottom to top.</li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_original_horizontality">Principle of original horizontality</a> &#8212; Because particles settle from fluids, such as water, most sedimentary strata are formed as horizontal layers. When one sees steeply tilted layers in mountains, for example, we can know that they were once horizontal and have been deformed through mountain-building processes, such as folding or faulting.</li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_lateral_continuity">Principle of lateral continuity</a> &#8212; Strata were originally deposited as continuous layers, though those layers may now be broken by subsequent erosion. A good place to observe this is the Grand Canyon, where the layers in the North Rim correlate to the same layers in the South Rim.</li>
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<p>Steno also made a significant contribution to the development of the science of mineralogy by observing that for a given mineral, such as quartz, the angles between different crystal faces are constant from one specimen to another. This is known as <a href="http://xrayweb.chem.ou.edu/notes/symmetry.html">Steno&#8217;s law of constant angles</a>.</p>
<p>The Guardian: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/11/nicolas-steno-google-doodle">Nicolas Steno Google doodle marks his 374th birth anniversary</a></p>
<p>Grace and Peace</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>Reading the Bible in 2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.&#8221;  Matthew 4:4 ESV I read the Bible every day. It is through the Scriptures that I know God, Christ, myself, and how to live in regards to God and my neighbor. I cannot think of any greater [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=geochristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1602783&amp;post=3923&amp;subd=geochristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>&#8220;Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.&#8221;</em></strong>  Matthew 4:4 ESV</p>
<p>I read the Bible every day. It is through the Scriptures that I know God, Christ, myself, and how to live in regards to God and my neighbor. I cannot think of any greater thing, except that in eternity I will know all of these much better than I do in this life.</p>
<p>Many make a New Year&#8217;s resolution to read the Bible more consistently than they have in the past, and many don&#8217;t stick to that resolution. Here is what works for me. Rather than using a reading schedule, with a listing of what chapters to read each day, I use a Bible reading checklist:</p>
<p><a href="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/geochristianbiblechecklist.pdf"><big><strong><span style="color:green;">The GeoChristian Bible Reading Checklist &#8211; PDF file</span></strong></big></a><big><strong> </strong></big></p>
<p>It has all sixty-six books of the Bible with their chapters. I mark off each chapter as I read.</p>
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<p>This system gives me greater flexibility than a schedule does, yet still helps me to reach my reading goals. This year I plan on reading the New Testament (probably twice), the wisdom and poetical books (Job through Song of Solomon) and the prophets (Isaiah through Malachi). Two advantages of this system over using a schedule is that I can vary my pace, and don&#8217;t get frustrated if I get behind in a reading schedule.</p>
<p>I also intend to do some more intensive study and meditation in a few New Testament books.</p>
<p>The checklist has two pages; I like to print it on two sides on heavy paper, fold it, and stick it in my Bible. The document is in &#8220;Landscape&#8221; orientation, but may print in &#8220;Portrait&#8221; orientation for you. You can change that in the &#8220;print setup.&#8221; Sorry, I&#8217;m not sure how to fix it on my end using Excel 2007.</p>
<p>Feel free to download and print this for yourself and pass it on to others:</p>
<p><a href="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/geochristianbiblechecklist.pdf"><big><strong><span style="color:green;">The GeoChristian Bible Reading Checklist &#8211; PDF file</span></strong></big></a><big><strong></strong></big></p>
<p>As important as Bible reading is to me, I realize that it is much more important that the Word be in me than that I be in the Word. One can read the Bible every day and learn lots of facts and end up being a self-righteous hypocrite. So my prayer is that I, and you, would be transformed by prayerful, humble, meditative reading of the Scriptures. May you know Christ and his salvation better through the intake of his Word.</p>
<p>Grace and Peace</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>P.S. Here are some good Bible reading schedules if you prefer that over using a checklist:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.navpress.com/uploadedFiles/15074%20BRP.dj.pdf">The Discipleship Journal Bible reading plan</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.esv.org/resources/reading-plans-devotions/">Ten reading plans from esv.org</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/files/2010/12/TGC-Two-Year-Bible-Reading-Plan1.pdf">The Gospel Coalition Two Year Bible Reading Plan</a></li>
<li>If you are really hungry for the Word, you can try Glenn Brooke&#8217;s <a href="http://www.teachtochangelives.com/30dayplan/">Read the Bible in 30 Days</a>.</li>
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		<title>Where the Conflict Really Lies: Science, Religion, and Naturalism</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christianity Today has a brief interview with philosopher Alvin Plantinga regarding his recent book entitled Where the Conflict Really Lies: Science, Religion, and Naturalism. The main points of the interview are: The alleged conflict between theistic religion and science is superficial. There is a deep harmony between theistic religion and science. Part of the reason [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=geochristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1602783&amp;post=3919&amp;subd=geochristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christianity Today has a <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2011/december/conflictresolution.html?start=1">brief interview with philosopher Alvin Plantinga</a> regarding his recent book entitled <em>Where the Conflict Really Lies: Science, Religion, and Naturalism</em>. The main points of the interview are:</p>
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<li>The alleged conflict between theistic religion and science is superficial.</li>
<li>There is a deep harmony between theistic religion and science.</li>
<li>Part of the reason there appears to be serious antagonism between theistic religion and science is because there are vocal advocates of warfare between the two. These people are wrong.</li>
<li>Those who add naturalism to scientific theories such as evolution are doing so for non-scientific reasons.</li>
<li>If we got here by unguided (i.e. no divine involvement) evolution, then there is no reason to trust that our minds can guide us to truth about evolution.</li>
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<p>Regarding evolution, Plantinga states</p>
<blockquote><p>In certain areas, the right word would be <em>alleged</em> conflict. For example, I argue that there&#8217;s no real conflict between evolutionary theory—that is, the scientific theory of evolution apart from any naturalistic spin—and what C. S. Lewis called &#8220;mere Christianity.&#8221; There&#8217;s no real conflict, even though conflict has been alleged by people on the Right as well as on the Left. Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, and a host of others claim that there is outright conflict between evolutionary theory and belief in such a person as God, who has created and designed the living world. At the other end, there are Christian thinkers, too—like Phillip Johnson—who think there is irreconcilable conflict between the scientific theory of evolution and Christian belief.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think there is. What current scientific evolutionary theory says is that the living world has come to be via a certain process of natural selection operating on some form of genetic variation. And it&#8217;s clear that God could have made the living world that way if he wanted to. What Christianity tells us, what theistic religion generally tells us, is that God has created the world and created human beings in his image. He could have done that through a variety of means. And that point goes all the way back to the 19th century. Some of the Princeton theologians—Charles Hodge, for example—said exactly that shortly after Darwin&#8217;s theory of evolution appeared. It&#8217;s not a new thought at all.</p></blockquote>
<p>Despite what you hear from the loud voices on both sides&#8212;whether Richard Dawkins or Daniel Dennett for the atheists or Ken Ham, Hugh Ross, or Phillip Johnson for the Christian anti-evolutionists&#8212;the Bible does not say much, if anything, about biological evolution. The two main arguments&#8212;at least from the young-Earth side of Christianity&#8212;against evolution are that there could not have been any death before Adam&#8217;s fall into sin, and that animals were created to reproduce after their kinds. The Bible however does not teach that there was no animal death before the fall, and to take the statements about organisms reproducing after their kinds in Genesis 1 to mean that populations cannot vary over time is quite a hermeneutic stretch. On the other side, atheist extrapolations from &#8220;organisms have changed over time&#8221; to &#8220;there is no God&#8221; are downright silly.</p>
<p>The conclusion a clear thinking person ought to make&#8212;and most scientists like to think of themselves as clear thinkers&#8212;is that one cannot rule out Christianity because of biological evolution or because of any other scientific theory. Those who have rejected Christianity because of evolution&#8212;or some other branch of science&#8212;have done so because of non-scientific additions to science, and are not being as rational as they have been led to believe.</p>
<p>Grace and Peace</p>
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		<title>Stratolaunch</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Paul Allen and Burt Rutan: The Stratolaunch. From Yahoo News: New Stratolaunch plane will take people into Earth’s orbit Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen is teaming up with aerospace pioneer Burt Rutan to build a giant machine that is part airplane and part spaceship. The new vehicle will be able to transport people and cargo [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=geochristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1602783&amp;post=3915&amp;subd=geochristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Paul Allen and Burt Rutan: The Stratolaunch.</p>
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<p>From Yahoo News: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/stratolaunch-plane-people-earth-orbit-203001086.html">New Stratolaunch plane will take people into Earth’s orbit</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen is teaming up with aerospace pioneer Burt Rutan to build a giant machine that is part airplane and part spaceship. The new vehicle will be able to transport people and cargo into Earth&#8217;s orbit and is scheduled to be commercially available by 2016.</p></blockquote>
<p>Grace and Peace</p>
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		<title>Creationists drive young people out of the church &#8212; Karl Giberson</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 02:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Karl Giberson: Creationists Drive Young People Out of the Church Here is a quote: In a recent piece titled &#8220;Nine Year Old Challenges Nasa,&#8221; [Answers in Genesis president Ken] Ham blogged proudly about &#8220;Emma B&#8221; who, when told that a NASA moon rock was 3.75 billion years old, asked &#8220;Were you there?&#8221; The suggestion that [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=geochristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1602783&amp;post=3912&amp;subd=geochristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl Giberson: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/karl-giberson-phd/creationists-and-young-christians_b_1096839.html">Creationists Drive Young People Out of the Church</a></p>
<p>Here is a quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>In a recent piece titled &#8220;<a href="http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2011/06/23/nine-year-old-challenges-nasa/" target="_hplink">Nine Year Old Challenges Nasa</a>,&#8221; [Answers in Genesis president Ken] Ham blogged proudly about &#8220;Emma B&#8221; who, when told that a NASA moon rock was 3.75 billion years old, asked &#8220;Were you there?&#8221;</p>
<p>The suggestion that scientists cannot speak about the past unless &#8220;they were there&#8221; is a strange claim. The implication is that we cannot do something as simple as count tree rings and confidently declare &#8220;This great pine was standing here 2,000 years ago.&#8221; As a philosophy of science, such a restriction would completely rule out the scientific study of the past. This, of course, is precisely what the creationists want.</p>
<p>Many bright evangelical young people are, fortunately, not impressed with the suggestion that only &#8220;eyewitnesses&#8221; can speak about the past. Just this past spring I taught an honors seminar on science and religion at an evangelical college. The class included a couple of bright students who had grown up in fundamentalist churches that showed Ken Ham videos in their Sunday School class. Both of them recalled the encouragement to ask their teachers &#8220;Were you there?&#8221; And both of them, a few years older and wiser than &#8220;Emma B,&#8221; thought this suggestion was ridiculous and wondered what kind of ideas required the embrace of such nonsense on their behalf. These students &#8212; in fact, most of the students I have had over the years &#8212; will graduate from college accepting contemporary science and its various explanations for what has happened in the past. But unless the leadership in their churches does a better job with its teaching ministry, such students will have a hard time returning to their home churches.</p>
<p>The dismissive and even hostile approach to science taken by evangelical leaders like Ken Ham accounts for the Barna finding above. In the name of protecting Christianity from a secularism perceived as corrosive to the faith, the creationists are unwittingly driving the best and brightest evangelicals out of the church &#8212; or at least into the arms of the compromising Episcopalians, whom they despise. What remains after their exodus is an even more intellectually impoverished parallel culture, with even fewer resources to think about complex issues.</p></blockquote>
<p>Giberson refers to a Barna survey: <a href="http://www.barna.org/teens-next-gen-articles/528-six-reasons-young-christians-leave-church">Six Reasons Young Christians Leave Church</a>. I&#8217;ve been wanting to blog about this, but just haven&#8217;t had the time. Reason #3 is &#8220;Churches come across as antagonistic to science.&#8221;</p>
<p>With love for the Church</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been involved in an online discussion regarding whether or not the geologic column (Cambrian-Ordovician-Silurian-Devonian&#8230;) is real, or  some sort of figment of geologists&#8217; imaginations. Dr. Jay Wile, on his Proslogion blog, has written a post entitled Yet Another Failure of &#8220;Geological Column&#8221; Reasoning. Please note that I consider Dr. Wile (author of the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=geochristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1602783&amp;post=3880&amp;subd=geochristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/geotimescale.png"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-3890" style="margin-left:3px;margin-right:10px;" title="GeoTimeScale" src="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/geotimescale.png?w=300&#038;h=231" alt="" width="300" height="231" /></a>I have been involved in an online discussion regarding whether or not the geologic column (Cambrian-Ordovician-Silurian-Devonian&#8230;) is real, or  some sort of figment of geologists&#8217; imaginations. Dr. Jay Wile, on his Proslogion blog, has written a post entitled <a href="http://blog.drwile.com/?p=6459">Yet Another Failure of &#8220;Geological Column&#8221; Reasoning</a>. Please note that I consider Dr. Wile (author of the Apologia series of home school science textbooks) to be one of the better young-Earth creationists; one who is willing to point out the scientific and theological shortfalls of the overall YEC movement when he sees them.</p>
<p>Dr. Wile argues that the discovery of fragments of grass phytolyths (tiny glass particles in grass leaves) in Cretaceous dinosaur dung (coprolites) is evidence that the whole concept of the geologic time scale is in trouble. After all, we had been told rather authoritatively that there were no grasses in the Cretaceous; that grasses did not appear until a few million years after the demise of the dinosaurs. He draws a parallel between this and another &#8220;failure&#8221; of the the geologic column: living fossils such as Coelacanths. If the geologic column is built on fossils, and if we discover that some fossils occur later or earlier than we realized, then perhaps the geologic column itself is suspect.</p>
<p>In the comments on Dr. Wile&#8217;s blog post, I have argued that the geologic column is more of an observation than an inference. I realize from philosophy of science that observations can be highly biased; that we often find just exactly what we are looking for. The young-Earth creationists claim that this is exactly what has happened; that geologists, imbibed with evolution, were expecting to find some sort of evolutionary order in the fossil record, and therefore they went out and found it. When one points out that the geologic column was largely deciphered before Darwin, they respond by saying that there was plenty of evolutionary thinking before Darwin (e.g. Lamarck), and that this is what influenced the early stratigraphers.</p>
<div id="attachment_3887" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 213px"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geological_map_Britain_William_Smith_1815.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-3887" title="SmithGeoMap" src="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/smithgeomap.jpg?w=203&#038;h=300" alt="" width="203" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">One of William Smith&#039;s geological maps. From Wikipedia: William Smith (geologist)</p></div>
<p>But is this what happened? Were the early 19th century geologists more influenced by evolutionary thinking, or by what they observed in sedimentary rocks?</p>
<p>In the early 1800s, William Smith compiled the first geologic maps of Great Britain. At first he focused on types of rocks, but he soon recognized that there were distinct fossil assemblages in the layers as well, and that these too could be traced across Britain .</p>
<p>Within the upcoming decades, scientists across Europe, and then in North America and elsewhere, began to make similar geological surveys. They discovered that not only were many fossils restricted to narrow bands of rock, but that there were many types that no longer could be found on Earth, and that there were consistent patterns in the order in which these fossils appeared in the geological record. This led to the construction (or discovery) of the geologic column. They eventually put labels on parts of the geologic column, such as Ordovician and Triassic.</p>
<p>Some of these early geologists were Christians, some were deists. Many were catastrophists, believing that the sedimentary rocks were the product of worldwide deluges, and many believed in the fixity of species. Few had the molecules-to-man picture that emerged after 1859.</p>
<p>That is a very brief summary of the development of the idea of the geologic (or stratigraphic) column, which is closely tied to the concept of geologic time. I want to make the case that the geologic column exists, that it is in need of an explanation, and that the standard geological explanation of deposition over millions of years works well, while the YEC Flood geologist falls far short.</p>
<p>The basic concept of the geologic column is that sedimentary rocks occur in the crust of the Earth is a specific sequence, and that this sequence has a global, rather than regional, basis.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start with the stratigraphic section that might be found at one location. This section would be a slice through the Earth. It might be exposed in a canyon or on a mountain side, or detailed by examining cores and cuttings as a well is extended deeper into the crust. My initial column (A) has five layers, which I will label 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/strata.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-3894" title="StratA" src="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/strata.jpg?w=54&#038;h=210" alt="" width="54" height="210" /></a></p>
<p>I am not all that concerned at this point whether those layers are sandstone, shale, or limestone. Instead, I wish to focus on the fossils. Layer 1 might contain marine fossils, such as trilobites and brachiopods. Layer 2 might also contain bryozoans and brachiopods, but of different genera than those found in layer 1. Layer 3 might contain corals. And so on for layers 4 and 5.</p>
<p>Now lets move down the road fifty miles and examine another section (B) of the sedimentary record.</p>
<p><a href="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/stratab.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-3895" title="StratAB" src="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/stratab.jpg?w=215&#038;h=300" alt="" width="215" height="300" /></a>Some of the layers clearly connect from A to B. This could be in terms of the rock types, the fossils, or both. But B has six layers, with B4 appearing between what was A3 and A4. Note that the correlation lines do not cross. This is not because of some evolutionary presupposition, but because the fossils in A1 match the fossils in B1, the fossils in A4 match the fossils in B5, and so forth.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s move over one or two counties, and examine a third series of layers, section C.</p>
<p><a href="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/stratabc.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-3896" title="StratABC" src="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/stratabc.jpg?w=300&#038;h=239" alt="" width="300" height="239" /></a>We can see that A1 correlates with B1 and C1. B2, however has disappeared somewhere between B and C, and a new layer, C6, has appeared at the top of the section. Note again that there is no crossing of the lines.</p>
<p>For a final look, I&#8217;ll add two more sections, D and E.</p>
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<p>It is apparent that some layers correlate all the way across from A to E, others pinch out, and still others appear. Once again, there is no crossing of lines.</p>
<p>These are all hypothetical columns of rock. In the real world, the same types of patterns occur, and geologists have given names to sets of rocks, based on the fossils that they contain. The lowermost layers contain distinct assemblages of fossils that have been given the label &#8220;Cambrian.&#8221; Higher in the column, another distinct assemblage of fossils has been named &#8220;Ordovician.&#8221; This continues upward for the entire geologic column.</p>
<div id="attachment_3900" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 246px"><a href="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/geoltimebw.gif"><img class="size-full wp-image-3900" title="geoltimebw" src="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/geoltimebw.gif" alt="" width="236" height="434" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Credit: NPS &amp; USGS http://www.nature.nps.gov/geology/usgsnps/gtime/gtime1.html</p></div>
<p style="text-align:left;">Don&#8217;t get distracted by the numbers at this point. I am not defending so much the age of the Earth right now, but the reality of the geologic column, and I have this diagram here as an illustration.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">The well-read young-Earth creationist, at this point, will say that this entire column does not exist in any one place; that it is all an inference. Look at the Grand Canyon, for example. It only contains fossil-bearing rocks from the Cambrian, and Devonian through Permian (no Silurian, Ordovician, or anything younger than the Permian).</p>
<div id="attachment_3902" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 530px"><a href="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/gcanyon.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3902" title="GCanyon" src="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/gcanyon.jpg" alt="" width="520" height="371" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Credit: NASA http://rst.gsfc.nasa.gov/Sect2/Sect2_1b.html</p></div>
<p style="text-align:left;">That objection is pretty easy to answer. First of all, if one looks at the broader context, the Cambrian through Permian rocks of the Grand Canyon can be traced laterally to where they are beneath rocks in Utah that have Triassic, Jurassic, Cretaceous, and Tertiary fossils.</p>
<div id="attachment_3903" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/correlation.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3903" title="correlation" src="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/correlation.jpg" alt="" width="480" height="589" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">http://rst.gsfc.nasa.gov/Sect2/Sect2_1b.html</p></div>
<p style="text-align:left;">So in a distance of roughly one hundred miles, we can trace most of the periods of the geologic column. All that is missing is the Ordovician and Silurian. There are Quaternary deposits in this area, they just are not shown on the diagram. This sort of situation&#8212;correlation of layers&#8212;is the rule rather than the exception.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Second, there are a number of persistent sedimentary basins&#8212;that is areas that for one reason or another have continued to collect sedimentary deposits through much of geologic history&#8212;that do indeed contain layers from each of the geologic periods. If one drills into the Williston Basin (North Dakota, Montana, Saskatchewan), they will find the layers in the proper order. Starting from the bottom, there are layers from the Cambrian, Ordovician, Silurian, Devonian, Mississippian, Pennsylvanian, Permian, Triassic, Jurassic, Cretaceous, Tertiary, and Quaternary. There is nothing out of order. This can be seen on the following stratigraphic correlation chart.</p>
<div id="attachment_3904" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><a href="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/corelaboratoriescorrelation.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3904" title="CoreLaboratoriesCorrelation" src="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/corelaboratoriescorrelation.jpg" alt="" width="450" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Credit: Core Lab --- http://www.landman.ca/pdf/CORELAB.pdf</p></div>
<p style="text-align:left;">This really is a nice looking correlation chart; I encourage you to look at the full-scale version at the <a href="http://www.landman.ca/pdf/CORELAB.pdf">Core Lab web site</a>. This chart (and others like it) show the same thing that I was doing with sections A-B-C-D-E earlier. Note that in the Montana and North Dakota columns at the far right of the chart, there are rocks from the Cambrian all the way up through the Quaternary. This chart only covers a corner of North America (British Columbia to Manitiba and down into parts of the United States). It could easily be extended to the whole of North America, and even to Europe and the rest of the world.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Note that the fossilized rocks express the same order no matter where you go. You simply do not find Cambrian rocks lying on top of Jurassic rocks. There is no crossing of the correlation lines. (Side note: YECs will often point to areas where older rocks are above younger rocks in areas that have been deformed by folding and faulting. If you undo the deformation, everything always slides back into place).</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">One can go to a number of basins throughout the world&#8212;in Libya, Bulgaria, China, Australia, Colombia, and elsewhere&#8212;and find exactly the same thing. It is not Cambrian-Ordovician-Silurian-Devonian in North America, and Permian-Cambrian-Devonian-Ordovician in Europe.</p>
<p>Many of the better young-Earth creationists acknowledge that there is some sort of order to the fossil record. They know that there are only invertebrates in the lower parts of the column, that land vertebrates (amphibians and then reptiles) don&#8217;t show up until the middle, and that mammals don&#8217;t show up until the top part.</p>
<p>At the simplest level, there was the proposal that marine organisms got buried first, and then the slow moving amphibians and reptiles, and the mammals and birds, who were quicker, were able to run faster (or fly) and so escape the earlier Flood waters. But this verges on being nonsense, as there are terrestrial sediments deposited throughout the column. And there are lake deposits, and shallow marine deposits, and deeper marine deposits also scattered throughout the column. And am I supposed to accept that all mice were able to outrun the advancing Flood, but pterodactyls couldn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>More sophisticated models have come along, such as various horizontal and vertical ecological zonation models. These models run into some of the same problems, as well as some additional ones. First is the problem of sorting. I would expect a worldwide Flood to at least sometimes have some turbulence, and to either mix groups of fossils together, or to put them out of order. Maybe even a little tiny bit. But it doesn&#8217;t seem to have happened. The order is Cambrian-Ordovician-Silurian-Devonian&#8230;  It isn&#8217;t Cambrian-Ordovician-Mixture-Mixture-Mixture-Silurian, and it isn&#8217;t Cretaceous-Devonian-Permian-Cambrian. Ken Ham, the president of Answers in Genesis, <a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/au/cant-allow-it">likes to say</a>, <em>&#8220;If there really was a global Flood, you would expect to find billions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth … which is exactly what you do find!&#8221;</em>  No, if the sedimentary rock record were a product of a single giant flood, I would expect to find a giant mess. I would not expect to find Cambrian-Ordovician-Silurian-Devonian&#8230;</p>
<p>A further problem with the ecological zonation models is that there would have had to have been plenty of critters still alive (and thriving) most of the way through the Flood. For example, think about all of the organisms of the Mesozoic Era (Triassic, Jurassic, Cretaceous). This includes not only the dinosaurs, but a host of mammals, birds, plants, and marine organisms, such as ammonites. Many of these organisms are unique to the Mesozoic, and even unique to subdivisions of the individual periods. Where were they all during the massive catastrophe that deposited the rocks of the Paleozoic? Vast areas of Mesozoic rocks are underlain by Paleozoic rocks. Were they huddled together on islands that had escaped earlier flooding? Were they floating around on mats of vegetation? Both of these proposals have very serious problems, but they are what the Flood geologists seem to be clinging to.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m barely getting started, and just scratching the surface. But I need to get back to Dr. Wile&#8217;s objection: that grass in the Cretaceous and Coelacanths in the Holocene are enough to discredit the whole thing. Do they? If anything, they discredit geologists and paleontologists who should have been a little more cautious in their statements.</p>
<p>The discovery of grass in dinosaur dung isn&#8217;t that big of a change. Paleobotanists had been saying that grass appeared sometime in the Paleocene or early Eocene (perhaps around 55 million years ago), and now we know that there was at least some grass around in the very late Cretaceous (a little over 65 million years ago). In any case, it appears that grasses were probably a minor constituent of the Mesozoic fauna. Perhaps I&#8217;m wrong on this. I don&#8217;t think any actual fossils of Cretaceous grass leaves have been found. In regards to the Coelacanth, which was once thought to have gone extinct in the Cretaceous but then discovered alive in the Indian Ocean, I think we should expect this sort of thing from time to time. There are fossils that, as far as we know, only lived in the Tithonian age of the Jurassic. Do we know everything? We should expect that for at least some of our index fossils (those fossils that are supposed to tell us the age of the rock in a very narrow range) that some survived somewhere and could even still be alive today.</p>
<p>These are little things. Grass appeared a bit earlier than we knew. Coelacanths survived throughout the Tertiary without leaving any fossils, but they are alive today. The plain and simple fact is that the geologic column exists. What the young-Earth creationists would need to find in order to overturn the well-established and well-justified concept of the geologic column is something like a mastodon in Devonian sediments, or an ostrich in the Ordovician. Until then, I&#8217;ll accept Cambrian-Ordovician-Silurian-Devonian&#8230; as an observation that is in need of an explanation.</p>
<p>Grace and Peace</p>
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<td style="font-weight:bold;text-align:center;"><em><strong>As an old-Earth creationist<br />
</strong></em><em><strong>I believe that the universe was created by the triune God of the Bible<br />
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<p><em><strong>I believe that the Bible does not dictate when this creation took place<br />
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<p><em><strong>I believe in a real Adam<br />
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<p><em><strong>in a real garden<br />
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<p><em><strong>in a real fall into sin<br />
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<p><em><strong>in real consequences for that sin<br />
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<p><em><strong>and in Jesus Christ as the only solution for sin<br />
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<p><em><strong>Amen</strong></em></td>
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		<description><![CDATA[From NASA: LRO Camera Team Releases High Resolution Global Topographic Map of Moon. The science team that oversees the imaging system on board NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) has released the highest resolution near-global topographic map of the moon ever created. This new topographic map, from Arizona State University in Tempe, shows the surface shape [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=geochristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1602783&amp;post=3883&amp;subd=geochristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_3884" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/lroc.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-3884" title="LROC" src="http://geochristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/lroc.png?w=300&#038;h=300" alt="" width="300" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/index.php?/archives/484-Lunar-Topography-As-Never-Seen-Before!.html</p></div>
<p>From NASA: <a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/lro-topo.html">LRO Camera Team Releases High Resolution Global Topographic Map of Moon</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The science team that oversees the imaging system on board NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) has released the highest resolution near-global topographic map of the moon ever created.</p>
<p>This new topographic map, from Arizona State University in Tempe, shows the surface shape and features over nearly the entire moon with a pixel scale close to 100 meters (328 feet). A single measure of elevation (one pixel) is about the size of two football fields placed side-by-side.</p>
<p>Although the moon is our closest neighbor, knowledge of its morphology is still limited. Due to instrumental limitations of previous missions, a global map of the moon’s topography at high resolution has not existed until now. With the LRO Wide Angle Camera and the Lunar Orbiter Laser Altimeter (LOLA) instrument, scientists can now accurately portray the shape of the entire moon at high resolution.</p>
<p>“Our new topographic view of the moon provides the dataset that lunar scientists have waited for since the Apollo era,” says Mark Robinson, Principal Investigator of the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC) from Arizona State University in Tempe. “We can now determine slopes of all major geologic terrains on the moon at 100 meter scale. Determine how the crust has deformed, better understand impact crater mechanics, investigate the nature of volcanic features, and better plan future robotic and human missions to the moon.”</p>
<p>Called the Global Lunar DTM 100 m topographic model (GLD100), this map was created based on data acquired by LRO’s WAC, which is part of the LROC imaging system. The LROC imaging system consists of two Narrow Angle Cameras (NACs) to provide high-resolution images, and the WAC to provide 100-meter resolution images in seven color bands over a 57-kilometer (35-mile) swath.</p>
<p>The WAC is a relatively small instrument, easily fitting into the palm of one’s hand; however, despite its diminutive size it maps nearly the entire moon every month. Each month the moon&#8217;s lighting has changed so the WAC is continuously building up a record of how different rocks reflect light under different conditions, and adding to the LROC library of stereo observations.</p></blockquote>
<p>Arizona State University has a <a href="http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc_browse/view/WAC_CSHADE_0000N1800_128P_4WEB">pan- and zoomable version</a>.</p>
<p>HT: <a href="http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap111118.html">Astronomy Picture of the Day 11/18/2011</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Christianity Today &#8212; Survey of Evangelical pastors convictions regarding the age of the Earth and human evolution: Self-identified evangelical pastors on whether the earth is 6,000 years old: No answer: 13% Strongly agree : 29% Somewhat agree: 19% Somewhat disagree: 12% Strongly disagree: 27% &#160; Self-identified evangelical pastors on whether God used evolution to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=geochristian.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1602783&amp;post=3878&amp;subd=geochristian&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2011/november/gofigure-nov11.html">Christianity Today</a> &#8212; Survey of Evangelical pastors convictions regarding the age of the Earth and human evolution:</p>
<blockquote><p>Self-identified evangelical pastors on whether the earth is 6,000 years old:</p>
<p><strong>No answer:</strong> 13%</p>
<p><strong>Strongly agree :</strong> 29%</p>
<p><strong>Somewhat agree:</strong> 19%</p>
<p><strong>Somewhat disagree:</strong> 12%</p>
<p><strong>Strongly disagree:</strong> 27%</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Self-identified evangelical pastors on whether God used evolution to create people:</p>
<p><strong>No answer:</strong> 3%</p>
<p><strong>Strongly agree:</strong> 8%</p>
<p><strong>Somewhat agree:</strong> 10%</p>
<p><strong>Somewhat disagree:</strong> 9%</p>
<p><strong>Strongly disagree:</strong> 70%</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Source: LifeWay Research</p></blockquote>
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